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Protest HHS Mandate by Xarti Protest HHS Mandate by Xarti
I'll post other links (and my own protest toon) later. You can fave and download this.

Let's say that I view the HSS mandate as the government throwing 'Separate of Church and State' and the constitution out the window and saying "Let's demand that everyone pays for contraceptives, whether they want to or not."

A non-religious reason why it's bad: [link]

What it is: [link]

7 ways which the latest Obamacare is wrong: [link]

Is Contraception a Right? (patheos): [link]

Why the HSS mandate is bad for non-religious: [link]

Wall Street journal, why the HSS mandate is bad for other religions and non-religious alike: [link]

HHS Mandate could Close 13% of America's Hospitals (American Life League): [link]

The Deceitful and Shameful Misrepresentation of Obama's HHS mandate (American Life League): [link]

All pro-life groups, including Agnostics, Atheists, and etc. will get arrested by the Obama admistration because of the HHS Mandate and those other unconstitutional bills we are fighting against (i.e. ACTA, SOPA, and etc.). Don't believe these groups exists, here's their websites/ information link:

Atheist and Agnostic pro-lifers: [link]

Pro-life atheist interview: [link]

Activist will bring Pro-Life,Pro-Women, Pro-Science Message to America Atheist convention (Life Site News): [link]

Pro-Life pagans facebook: [link]

Pro-Life Alliance of Gays and Lesbians (wikipedia): [link]

Petition links:

Stop HHS petition: [link]

[link]

Conscience petition (AUL): [link]

This petition is for an amendment that will prevent corporate lobbying for unconstitutional laws/ politicians, especially corporations that sponsor the hhs mandate: [link]

Protest march against the HHS Mandate: [link]

Stop HHS website: [link]

Deadline Approaches for Russia and China Led UN Internet Takeover (Daily Caller): [link]

Petition against UN Internet takeover: [link]

+ + + + +

Good Bills:

OPEN in a Nutshell: [link]

FIA stamp: coming soon

Intolerable Acts version 2.0:

SOPA: [link]

ACTA in a Nutshell: [link]

C-11 in a Nutshell: [link]

NDAA (Meet): [link]

TPPA (Meet): [link]

HHS in a Nutshell (chibi): [link]

TPPA in a Nutshell: [link]

NDAA/ PIPA in a Nutshell: [link]

Protest stamps:

Stop Cybersecurity act of 2012 stamp: [link]

Anti-Cybersecurity act of 2012 stamp: [link]

EEA stamp: [link]

I Don't Support the HHS Mandate: [link]

Bad Future prediction:

[link]

Downloads (You can fave, download, and re-submit these) :

ACTA: [link]

CISPA: [link]

TPPA: [link]

TPPA (Japanese version): [link]

HHS Mandate: You're here.

New one: ACTA's Back (CETA): [link]

Petitions (You can fave, download, sign it, and upload it) :

CISPA DevArt petition: [link]
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:iconjoshthecartoonguy:
joshthecartoonguy Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Wowzers! You found a lot of links! Thanks for reuploading.
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Xarti Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012  Student General Artist
You're welcome, joshthecartoonguy.
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Xarti Featured By Owner May 19, 2012  Student General Artist
It's some of the reasons why it's bad because the government will force any hospitals, schools, and etc, including those own by Christians, to pay and buy contraceptives. Also, they are saying that they don't respect whether anyone thinks and/or believes that it's wrong.

Lastly, it's too big for the already bad economy, since it will require a lot money to meet its demands. Doing that will close down about 10% of the hospitals.
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Nbbren Featured By Owner May 16, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
what does this mean for Christians exactly
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CloudsGirl7 Featured By Owner May 5, 2012   General Artist
...the hell? MORE nazis?
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Itachi-Prower Featured By Owner May 4, 2012  Student General Artist
sounds like there's a "helping heretics steal" mandate
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VVraith Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Unbefuckinlievable. Either that was a troll, or you literally came into contact with the dumbest person on the face of the planet.
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Kajm Featured By Owner May 19, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I suspect that troll was a certain johnfaa, who has now been banned on a number of accounts he has created. He's still out there, polluting the environment.
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Kajm Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Glad to see this getting around. Liked your pony art, too!

Too bad the first commenter turned out to be slime.
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Xarti Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Student General Artist
Thank you, Kajm.

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Kajm Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Welcome!
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B166-ER Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well will you Nazi shit heads learn!

If we didn't want one group of Ignorant corporate Nazis telling everyone what they are allowed to see think and hear why would we want another group of Ignorant Christian Nazis telling everyone the same fucking shit?!?

You are officially dumb as all FUCK comparing SOPA to the right to healthcare insurance without having to prey to the right imaginary fucking character!
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joshthecartoonguy Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Not sure if troll, or typical product of secular education system. [link]
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drawitbig Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If you were the one who'd have to carry the child would you still oppose this? Other than religious beliefs why do you oppose it?
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joshthecartoonguy Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Okay, here's a dang good reason for you: because it will actually hurt the people it claims to help. If you say to religious charities, "You must either stop doing charitable activities, or else pay for something you find immoral," a lot of those religious individuals will decide that they can't continue to perform the charitable work. Indeed, I believe the Catholic church has announced that if the government forces them to fund this, they will shut down their hospitals. 1 in 6 hospitals in America is a Catholic hospital. The poor people who rely on charitable health clinics and soup kitchens will be the ones hurt by penalizing religious charities. You can say, "Oh, how dare they threaten that!" but what are they supposed to do? These religious people want to help others because they want to obey what they believe are God's commands. The government is essentially saying, "In order to continue doing good work to help people, you must do something which disobeys what you believe are God's commands." What if it was something like, you operate a soup kitchen, and the federal government says, in order for you to stay in business, you must help pay for our wars, and you are a pacifist who has a moral objection to supporting wars. Are you going to continue your charity work if doing so requires you to fund something you believe to be morally repugnant? The people who are going to feel the pain of this mandate going into effect are not the wealthy liberals who would like contraception, but the poorest of Americans who rely upon charity. If religious liberty really isn't good enough reason to oppose this mandate, then not hurting poor people should be reason aplenty.
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drawitbig Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Again, you are using religion to try to support your beliefs. I wanted to know why you oppose this without dragging religion or God into this.
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joshthecartoonguy Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I did make a secular argument: Because it will hurt poor people. I'm not Catholic. But I sympathize with Catholics who want to follow their conscience. My Vietnam analogy was also a secular argument. If it's wrong to make an anti-war person pay to support a war he believes is immoral, why is it okay to tell an anti-contraception person that they have to pay to support contraception? Why don't we just keep the current law as is? If you like contraception, you can buy it for cheap. If you don't like contraception, no one is forcing to to buy it. Frankly, this mandate is so silly, because it's a one-size-fits-all approach to medicine. You may be the female employee of the Catholic hospital, and not be inclined to buy an abortive drug. But under this one-size-fits-all mandate, you are paying the abortive drug companies whether or not you'll ever use their services. It's like requiring all employers to pay for testicular cancer exams, including all-female companies. If you say, "It's silly to require our female organization to pay for testicular exams in our health coverage" and your response is "But testicular cancer exams save lives! Do you want to people to die of testicular cancer? Do you want to ban testicular exams!" Of course not. Just give me the freedom to pay for what products and services I actually need. Don't assume that all people need the same things and should be covered equally. Here is yet another secular argument: this is supporting Big Business. Whatever happened to the liberal suspicion of corporate greed?

Here's a hypothetical: scientists discover that drinking soda has positive benefits on health. Pepsi then lobbies congress to pass a bill requiring employers to pay for free pepsi products in order to stay in business. I think the Mormons have a religious objection to Pepsi, so let's say they ask for an exception. "What?" you don't want to provide free Pepsi? But Pepsi is good for you! Pepsi would probably wage an ad war extolling the health benefits of soda and asking people to support the Pepsi Mandate. Never mind that you could go to Walmart and buy Pepsi for cheap already, or if you can't afford Pepsi, Sam's Club soda, which tastes just like it and is less expensive. Why should we force the Mormons to pay for Pepsi despite their religious objections, when soda is widely available for cheap? Why should the government make Pepsi the winner rather than Coca-cola, or Sam's club? Even if soda is good for you, does it follow that you have a right to force your employer to pay for free Pepsi for you, regardless of his religious or moral concerns with Pepsi? The reason this is similar to the contraception debate is that certain pharmaceutical companies will be the winners, the ones that have enough money to have political clout.

There are multiple "secular" arguments in that, however, you seem to think that wanting religious liberty is somehow a "religious" argument, not a "secular" argument. But a lot of secular people who care about freedom care about religious liberty. No where in this post have I said we should oppose this because the Bible says so, I'm making an argument about liberty. If a secular person should be free to help other people without funding what he finds morally abhorrent, then the same goes for the religious person. It's a question of conscience. If you disrespect the right of a religious person to follow his conscience, how can you expect religious people to stand up for your right to obey your own conscience? It's like that old saying: the guy didn't object to the Jews losing their rights because we wasn't a Jew, he didn't object to the gypsies losing their rights because he wasn't a gypsy, then the communists, then the catholics, then finally there was no one left to stand up for him because he hadn't stood up for anyone else before him. If today the government has the power to force religious people to go against their conscience, then they have the power to force secular people to go against their conscience. We're all in this together.
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Hoenn-Master Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012
:iconsuperepicwinplz:

You, sir, have just won my absolute respect. :iconclapplz:
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drawitbig Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I say we agree to disagree; it's clear neither one of us will win or change the other's opinion.
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joshthecartoonguy Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Okay. Thank you for staying respectful.

I'd encourage you to consider that men like Martin Luther King have had strong religious motivations for supporting the kinds of laws they supported, but that didn't mean they were trying to "impose their religious views" on people by wanting to change segregation laws. Wanting to advance religious liberty is very different from wanting to advance a particular religion. Advancing a religion is an example of "imposing" religious views on people whereas advancing religious liberty is good for everyone, including non-religious individuals, because religious liberty is incompatible with "imposing" ideas on people against their will.
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B166-ER Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Product of watching religious retards like yourself taking away the rights and freedoms of others in the name of a god that doesn't exist.

You - like the Nazis before you want freedom for yourself and your own believes and no one else's. No other race- no other religion, no other gender, sexuality, or ideology...

You live only to take. And you will one day die alone because of it in a burnt out toxic hell of your own creation. A Nazi heaven. A religious police state.

But with things going the way they are it'll probably end up a Muslim one... And you who opened the gate for religious ignorance will be the one to suffer the most.
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Hoenn-Master Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012
Funnily enough; the Nazis were atheist.
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joshthecartoonguy Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I know you can't get anywhere feeding a troll, but you're just too big a temptation for me to resist. Have you ever thought how much time you waste doing this? Digging through old comments, spending hours hammering out nearly illegible, bigoted statements. Do you think the hours you spend being a troll have added up to days or weeks or months of your life yet? I made a respectful, non-antagonistic statement, defending religious liberty. You are so bigoted, and so intolerant, that the moment you see a political statement that is at odds with yours, even if it is made in a respectful way, you feel the need to jump in and whine at everybody's comment. Comparing the defense of religious liberty to Nazis is not only insulting, it is beyond parody. It is an insult to the 6,000,000 Jews the Nazi's slaughtered to accuse everyone of being like Nazis. However, since you brought them up, here are a couple hypothetical questions about Nazism. Would the Nazis A) agree, or B) disagree with this statement: religious organizations and individuals have a right to practice their religion and obey the dictates of their faith, and the state does not have the power to coerce religious individuals to disobey their religion. Read about Dietrich Bonhoeffer to get the answer to that question. Second, this mandate doesn't just effect Catholics, but also Orthodox Jews. Would the Nazis be A) more likely, or B) less likely to support a mandate which would require Orthodox Jews to fund something that contradicting their religious beliefs. Are you so inflexible in your thinking, so close minded, that you can't imagine for a second how you'd feel if the government tried to force you to fund something you believed was immoral? Would you feel like your liberty and conscience were being violated?

You are pitiable. If you enjoy spending hours of your time hammering out these screeds, feel free to waste your life in the basement in front of the screen. Feel free to spew your hate all over my deviation. I'm going to enjoy hiding any of your comments without reading them. So write pages and pages of hate, using the word "Nazi" every sentence, for all I care. As long as it's on something I can control, I'll just hide it so no one will have to slog through your intelligible hate speech. While you're spending years of your life doing that, I'll immediately go to doing something productive with my day.

If you're right and I'm wrong, we'll both end up dead and buried. After 100 years, no one will care that you existed, and it will be as if all your pathetic whining never existed. If I'm right about God and you're wrong, you will be in hell, will all the other unrepentant bigots, keeping yourself company for all eternity. However hateful and nasty you get however, Jesus Christ, the one and only Son of God, still loves you, in spite of all the hatred you spread. You can never become so low or degraded that the blood of Jesus Christ cannot redeem your soul. I wish you a productive and happy life. If you think trolling these pages is the way to spend your life, then good luck and happy trolling. Just know I'm not going to read it, I'm just going to hide your venom.
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Hoenn-Master Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012
I will now favorite, watch, and support you. This is gold.

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B166-ER Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A straw man argument- how original... Yes yes yes I am everything evil blah blah blah something about jews submarines and small caribou?

I do very much think that corporations and Christians now are acting just like the Nazis. Both want to say what you can and cannot think, see, write, or have. Both are authoritarian and kill other races in the name of god. Both are takers not makers. Everyone wines about a mere 6 million jews. Care to know how many millions of Muslim civilians died in the Iraq war? A war that was a lie- and how many millions of Palestinians are now in giant state sized death camp? With no food water or medical supplies? All because of Christians... But let me guess you dun see yourself that way??? To top that off both Religious and traditional Nazis use laws and force to control other people. It starts with demands- it ends in imprisonment and killings for not obeying. just like now. Notice how both never add any freedoms- they just take them away... Both operate on that loveliest of "do as I say because I say so" mentalities. The Might makes right idea.

But you still can't take my freedoms. Take your own.

If you want to be an ignorant religious nut and live in the dark ages with your KKK teabagger buddies that's fine. But leave mine be!

Funny thing is you don't have a choice... in the long run you must evolve or die. Either you grant other people freedom or like so many other religions and empires- out with the garbage- to one that will.
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joshthecartoonguy Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
tl;dnr
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joshthecartoonguy Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
* I meant "contradicted" not "contradicting."
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joshthecartoonguy Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
You prove all the rules of the internet.
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012
You do realize that according to the Alan Guttmacher foundation --A RESEARCH ARM OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD, that over half the people headed for the abortion mills USED CONTRACEPTIVES!?

Pope Paul VI's message against contraception boils down to "don't fuck with nature, because nature is a bitch!"
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Hoenn-Master Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012
These fools will always be outclassed. They're like garbage scows going up against Star Destroyers.
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Hoenn-Master Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012
*is elite 501st Marine from Star Wars Battlefront II* Indeed they are, Lord Vader; how shall I organize the boarding party?
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012
Capture or kill, however you please.
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B166-ER Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ok then- if that is what you believe I suggest you and everyone who thinks like you move to an area where you can do whatever suicidal retarded ideas you like. And never use contraceptives! Then when you have 3 unwanted mouths to feed in a trailer park- you can't live out the rest of your short life there... In poverty.. Like the majority of Christianity.

Meanwhile I suggest leaving a place for smart people "like me" to have my rights to family planning that my taxes have paid for. So that after I further educate, employ, and fund myself - I can have a family when "I" am ready to start one.

And we'll see who's offspring are better and who's living standards are higher.

The ones who plan ahead and protect themselves...
Or the ones who leave their thinking to an imaginary god- saying they will never have sex, then they have sex they get STD's and children they can't support.
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012
It's fucking research. AND IT IS RESEARCH DONE BY AN ABORTION COMPANY!!!!
Hell, the people who taught me these basics don't come from a pro-life group, but disillusioned pro-choicers. One reiterated to me the truth that most abortions are prom night dumpster babies, another taught me the specifics of human reproductive biology.

When the man makes love, he ejects sperm cells, but the fluids the woman ejects are the exact opposite of sperm cells; they lead back into her vagina. So if one sperm cell escapes the rubbery blockade, then BAM! Unwanted pregnancy! And they'd be heading to an abortion mill afterwards, since most people are too scared or broke to give birth and raise children.
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drawitbig Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Other than religious beliefs, why do you oppose this? And if you were the one left alone carrying a child you could not care for would you still maintain this belief?
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012
I would care for the child. It is mine, after all. I'd raise him/her all the way. Any mother who doesn't give a flying fuck about their child deserves to lose everything, just so she could understand what she put her own child through.
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drawitbig Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Do you know anything about medicine?
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012
I do. And I learned what I learned from a pro-choice ex-Planned Parenthood biology teacher in college. Morning-After pills are pretty much abortion in pill form. So is the birth control pill, since the egg is still fertilized but falls out. So human life was formed, but killed in the most unceremonius and dishonorable fashion.
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B166-ER Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is getting us nowhere ...

I'm starting to think there needs to be two sides of America both separated and unequal.

One needs to be a religious police state. For me such a thing would be a Nazi hell but to others it would be a paradise. Least until it comes time to pay the piper… But that aside.

One side needs to be devoted to Religious values. Abstinence only education, bibles instead of science books, creationism instead of evolution, no abortion or contraceptives, no gay rights, where religion calls the shots and no government medical care so if you get sick you pay or die face down on the streets. No rules for banks or corporations either. A “live at your own risk” predatory capitalist nightmare.

The other side will should be a strictly secular society. What conservatives would call a liberal Nazi hell. But what I would consider heaven. All religion would be banded until a child is 18. Studies would include, responsible sexual, dietary, and mental heath studies with science and math replacing god. Children would be taught tolerance and reason. Gays would be free with as many rights and privileges as any other human being. We would have free medical care, free collage, plus housing and food assistance for the poor.
Everyone would be required to be a student at all times. We would tax and regulate corporations to the legal limit and ban exporting of energy including gas. Outsourcing would also be banned.

The problems of the Religious side you be many… The people would be poor ignorant and have many heath problems. Aids would run rampant and half the people would be dieing of cancer from all the pollution. Muslims and Christians would be killing each other over the right to oppress people and the corporations would have half the population on the streets sifting through garbage for food. Very few people would even be literate.

The secular side would also have many problems. Though it would be cleaner and far more technologically advanced, it’d also have massive debt and always be on the point of economic collapse. There’d be jobs but also vast resource shortages. In short there’d be too many chiefs and no Indians. Also the humanist offspring of this society though honest and highly intelligent would also be heartless cold blooded predators. Quick to use hate and prejudice to justify enslavement and death of anyone not able to defend themselves. The people would be selfish and petty at best, unfeeling and murderous at worse.

And yet I see how the two sides would be able to help one another. One would have a slave caste of religious grunts who work hard and die cheap. The other would have vast medical and technological resources to give. One would have all the money stolen from the people. The other would have well educated engineers and scientists to develop better products. One can produce food- the other can produce better crops. Once side to make guns, the other provides the disposable troops.


Yes.. I see promise in this….
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Vader999 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012
The fact remains is that despite their militancy, the religious fundies speak the truth. You can lie to yourself all you want, but nature catches up to you, and it doesn't have the same forgiving tone God has.
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